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		<title>Relegation fodder &#8230;</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Aspirations have changed at Bolton since the dark days of Gary Megson. The arrival of Owen Coyle followed by our impressive start to the season had the more optimistic of us counting air miles and dusting off our Bulgarian phrase-books. Even when European qualification had passed us by – embarrassingly so in the cup – [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div id="attachment_4332" class="wp-caption alignright" style="width: 310px"><a href="http://mannyroad.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/venkys.jpg"><img class="size-medium wp-image-4332" title="FBL-ENG-PR-BLACKBURN-INDIA-COMPANY-20101119-135119" src="http://mannyroad.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/venkys-300x187.jpg" alt="" width="300" height="187" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Would you buy a second hand car off these boys?</p></div>
<p>Aspirations have changed at Bolton since the dark days of Gary Megson. The arrival of Owen Coyle followed by our impressive start to the season had the more optimistic of us counting air miles and dusting off our Bulgarian phrase-books. Even when European qualification had passed us by – embarrassingly so in the cup – a top half finish was still on the cards right up to the end of the season.</p>
<p>Never mind. Coyle’s inherited Megson’s bunch of cloggers. Once he’s had the summer to make serious changes, we’ll be back to chasing Europe again. Surely relegation battles are a thing of the past? Aren’t they?</p>
<p>Maybe not. Our form after Christmas was relegation-standard, and the end of the season – five defeats on the bounce – was abysmal. It wouldn’t be the first time poor form at the end of one season has carried over to the next. Add to that our tough start to the season and it wouldn’t be a great surprise to see us rock-bottom after the first seven games. We’ll have easier runs to follow, but everything looks that bit tougher if you’re sat at the bottom and confidence may have taken a bit of a battering.<span id="more-4325"></span></p>
<p>So how relevant is end-of-season form to performance in next campaign? Let’s hope the answer is ‘not very’. Only two previous premier league teams have ever lost their last five matches: Sunderland in 2003 and Derby in 2008. Both teams finished bottom and were relegated. Sunderland set a record low points tally of nineteen. Derby set a new one with eleven. We are therefore proud holders of another record – the only premier league side to have lost their last five games without being relegated.</p>
<p>So are we realistic relegation candidates, and if so who else is? Maybe recent history can give us some pointers.</p>
<p>Teams relegated from the premier league over the last ten years generally fit into one or more of the following categories:</p>
<p><strong>1. Newly promoted</strong></p>
<div id="attachment_4340" class="wp-caption alignleft" style="width: 310px"><a href="http://mannyroad.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/Neil-Warnock1.jpg"><img class="size-medium wp-image-4340" title="Neil Warnock" src="http://mannyroad.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/Neil-Warnock1-300x298.jpg" alt="" width="300" height="298" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">The omens aren&#39;t good, Neil</p></div>
<p>The most obvious category. Thirteen of the last thirty relegated sides were newly promoted, and not since the class of 2001 – Bolton, Blackburn, and Fulham, who are all still there – have all three promoted sides stayed up. Looking on the bright side, it’s 1998 since all three promoted teams were relegated (Bolton, Barnsley, and Crystal Palace), so maybe at least one will survive?</p>
<div class="mceTemp">The gap, particularly financial, between the premiership and championship is getting ever wider, and it would be no surprise to see all three struggle. Norwich and QPR have the more top flight history, but none of them have survived a top-flight season since QPR in the mid-1990s. Norwich in particular, and Swansea to a lesser extent, may find jumping up two divisions in quick succession to be a bridge too far. If any, QPR may be best placed for survival, but it may all come down to their respective start and whether any can get off to a bit of a flyer.</div>
<p>Candidates: <strong>QPR, Norwich, Swansea</strong></p>
<p><strong>2. Narrowly avoided relegation</strong><br />
Five of the last ten years’ relegated sides – including each of the last two years &#8211; finished in 17th place the previous year, so history suggests there’s a 50:50 chance Wolves will be in the mix next season.<br />
For the record those relegated sides were Derby, Sunderland, West Brom, Hull and West Ham, and those that have survived were Fulham, Wigan, Portsmouth, Everton, and Bolton.</p>
<p>Although no team finishing 16th has been relegated the next year, the closeness of this year’s relegation scrap suggests that the other last day survivors, Wigan and Blackburn, could also be in the mix.<br />
Candidates: <strong>Wolves</strong>.<br />
Possible: <strong>Wigan, Blackburn</strong></p>
<p><strong>3. Second season</strong><br />
Five of the 30 slots have gone to teams ‘enjoying’ their second season in the top flight. In the case of West Brom and Hull, they had also narrowly avoided relegation the previous season, but the other three – Ipswich, Reading, and Birmingham – had finished in the top half.</p>
<p>Newcastle and West Brom are the two clubs facing their second season. West Brom have steadied the ship under Roy Hodgson and will be targeting mid-table at least. Of the two, Newcastle would be the more likely candidates for me, but only because of indications of internal problems and my belief that Pardew is a poor manager, although they should have the finances to build a decent side after the sale of Andy Carroll.</p>
<p>Candidates: <strong>Newcastle and West Brom</strong>.</p>
<p><strong>4. Finished the previous season badly</strong><br />
Accounts for six of the thirty relegation slots in the last ten years. Two of these were teams that had also narrowly avoided relegation, but the other four all finished comfortably mid-table, albeit in poor form, reminiscent of this year’s Bolton.</p>
<p>Leicester finished the 2000/01 season with nine defeats in their last ten and dropping from 4th to 13th in the process. They carried this form into the new season, getting thumped by newly promoted Bolton in their first game of the new campaign, losing seven of their first ten games, and being rooted to the foot of the table for most of the season.</p>
<p>Southampton finished 12th in 2004 but with only two points from their last five games. Again, this carried over to the new campaign, with them winning only one of their first twelve and ultimately finishing bottom.</p>
<p>Charlton finished the 2005/06 season in 12th place despite four defeats in their last five then started the next season with seven defeats and only one win in their first ten games, ultimately finishing 19th.</p>
<p>Birmingham’s impressive 2009/10 season saw them defy expectations and claim a top ten place, but also saw them win only one of their last ten games. Whilst the following year started with a four-game unbeaten run, they only managed one win in the first eight, and ultimately a poor end to a topsy-turvy season saw them relegated on the last day.</p>
<p>In four of the last ten seasons, one of the relegated teams have had the worst form of any surviving team in the last five games of the previous campaign. Obviously this also means that the other six teams that finished bottom of the form guide survived, including Everton in 2004 and Man City in 2007 who went on to enjoy top half finishes the following year.</p>
<p>Remember, though, that losing your last five games is unprecedented for any surviving club, so Bolton are in uncharted territory. We managed less than a point a game since Christmas (only Blackpool and West Ham had worse records) and with our diabolical away record, a tricky start at newly promoted QPR (reminiscent of Leicester in 2002) closely followed by games against five of last season’s top six and things could look bleak by mid-October.</p>
<p>Last season’s only other premier league ‘survivor’ with less than a point per game in their last five was Arsenal, who are clearly in no danger of relegation.</p>
<p>Candidates: <strong>Bolton</strong></p>
<p><strong>5. Other factors</strong><br />
This category covers other potential ‘warning signs’: financial troubles, loss of a long-term manager, change of ownership, daft managerial sackings and disastrous appointments.</p>
<p>Many of the teams already mentioned also fit into this category. Leicester had recently lost Martin O’Neill. Charlton had lost Curbishley and followed up with three managers the following year. Southampton lost Strachan and appointed Sturrock (briefly) then Wigley (laughably), and so on.</p>
<p>Only six of our thirty relegated teams do not fit into at least one of the categories above. Two of these – Leeds in 2004 and Portsmouth in 2010 – were victims of financial meltdown, as the consequences of overspending took them from European qualification to relegation in short time.</p>
<p>Another – Newcastle – had recently changed ownership, and were going through their Laurel and Hardy phase as new owner Mike Ashley was demonstrating why he should never have been allowed anywhere near a professional football club. There were already murmurings of discontent before Keegan walked out at the start of their relegation season.</p>
<p>Barring sudden loss of interest from the Arabs / Russians / Americans, there are a couple of potential candidates from this category.</p>
<p>Blackburn’s recent change of ownership coupled with the appointment of an inexperienced manager probably put them at the top of the list.</p>
<div id="attachment_4329" class="wp-caption alignright" style="width: 310px"><a href="http://mannyroad.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/Mike-Ashley1.jpg"><img class="size-medium wp-image-4329" title="Mike-Ashley" src="http://mannyroad.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/Mike-Ashley1-300x180.jpg" alt="" width="300" height="180" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Bet you daren&#39;t appoint ... him!</p></div>
<p>Mike Ashley still should be allowed nowhere near a football club, and Newcastle’s sacking of Hughton and appointment of Pardew seems a bit of an odd one. Again there are murmurings from within the club, and the sale of your captain and main goal threat to a championship club doesn’t bode well, so let’s add them too.</p>
<p>Aston Villa’s appointment of McLeish is the most head-scratchingly daft for a while, but they have too much money and (currently) too good a squad to be genuine candidates.</p>
<p>Candidates: <strong>Blackburn, Newcastle</strong>.</p>
<p>That leaves only three clubs out of the last thirty relegated that were relegated without any of the ‘warning signs’ listed above, which suggests that if you’re an established premier league club not mentioned thus far, you’re probably safe..</p>
<p><strong>Summary: put your money on …</strong><br />
It’s difficult to look beyond the three promoted sides, and likely that at least a couple will be in the mix. Other prime candidates for me would be; Blackburn due to their potential for off-field turmoil with the new owners and because they narrowly avoided relegation this year, Newcastle due to Mike Ashley, Alan Pardew, and second season syndrome, Wolves simply because the worst placed survivor tends to have an even chance of going down, and finally Bolton due to our poor form at the end of last season and our difficult schedule at the start of this one, but mainly so I don’t jinx us by saying we’ll be safe.</p>
<p>To narrow it down further, I’d expect Wolves to build on their survival in the last two seasons and Bolton to have too much pedigree, too solid a set-up and too good a manager to be in the mix after Christmas.</p>
<p>So perm any three from Norwich, QPR, Swansea, Newcastle, and Blackburn.</p>
<p>There you go – the three relegated teams will definitely come out of that bunch. Probably.</p>
<p><em>- Wakey</em></p>
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		<title>Recommended reading (18.11.08): Capello&#8217;s Cahill snub, the curse of Chelsea and more Megsonisms</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 07:30:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What Manny Road was reading (and thinking) about Bolton Wanderers yesterday&#8230; - An England squad that included Wolves (yes, that&#8217;s Wolves of the Championship) defender Michael Mancienne, who is on loan from Chelsea because he can&#8217;t get a game there (what does Gary Cahill have to do to get a call-up, other than playing consistently [...]]]></description>
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<p>- An <a href="http://www.thefa.com/England/SeniorTeam/Players/">England squad</a> that included Wolves (yes, that&#8217;s Wolves of the Championship) defender Michael Mancienne, who is on loan from Chelsea because he can&#8217;t get a game there (what does Gary Cahill have to do to get a call-up, other than playing consistently well in the Premier League every week?).</p>
<p><span id="more-1386"></span>- This <a href="http://boards.footymad.net/mboard/fmb.php?tno=80&amp;fid=54&amp;sty=2&amp;act=1&amp;mid=2127775017">prediction</a> that, like his predecessors Sam Allardyce and Sammy Lee, Gary Megson&#8217;s last game in charge of Bolton could come against Chelsea (roll on December 6th!).</p>
<p>- This addition to the list of Megsonisms from The Bolton News, in which the Wanderers manager claims we <a href="http://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/sport/wanderers/3851431.We_gave_everything_we_got___Megson/">&#8216;gave everything we got&#8217; against Liverpool</a> (if anyone can explain what that means please do so in the comments section below&#8230; still, didn&#8217;t stop The Bolton News using it as their headline). And yet <a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/606/A43712615">another ill-judged Megson quote</a>, this time from The People.</p>
<p>- Evidence that the <a href="http://www.the-wanderer.co.uk/boards/viewtopic.php?t=16741">stewading at the Reebok Stadium</a> is just as bad as it was when I was at <a href="http://mannyroad.wordpress.com/2008/10/07/bolton-wanderers-hall-of-shame-met-police/">Upton Park earlier this season</a>.</p>
<p>- <a href="http://www.fansfc.com/frontpage/frontpagenews.asp?newsid=193165">Nicky Hunt enjoying himself at Birmingham City</a>.</p>
<p>- More reports linking us with <a href="http://www.clubcall.com/bolton-wanderers/meggo-launch-midfielder-move-814723.html">Swansea&#8217;s Ferrie Bodde</a>, who <a href="http://www.soccerbase.com/players_details.sd?playerid=46676">scored again at the weekend</a>. We&#8217;re also being linked with <a href="http://www.clubcall.com/bolton-wanderers/la-liga-ace-linked-move-814230.html">Deportivo La Coruna midfielder Julian de Guzman</a>.</p>
<p>- And finally&#8230; this article suggesting <a href="http://www.rivals.net/news/pgarticle.aspx?artid=13466_4513503&amp;id=9">Rob Styles is available for after-dinner speaking</a> (although I can&#8217;t actually find the site they&#8217;re talking about&#8230; incidentally, the <a href="http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/wehaterobystyles/signatures.html">Styles out of the Premier League petition</a> still needs your signature).</p>
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		<title>Recommended reading (5.11.08): It&#8217;s official&#8230; Bolton Wanderers are rubbish. And so are Phil Gartside&#8217;s ideas</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[What Manny Road has been reading (and thinking) about Bolton Wanderers today&#8230; - Some stats from Martin Tyler on Sky Sports suggesting Bolton have been rubbish in derbies over the last year or so (I think he&#8217;ll find Bolton have been rubbish in most matches over the last 12 months, derbies or not). - This [...]]]></description>
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<p>- Some stats from Martin Tyler on Sky Sports suggesting <a href="http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11672_4454545,00.html">Bolton have been rubbish in derbies over the last year or so</a> (I think he&#8217;ll find Bolton have been rubbish in most matches over the last 12 months, derbies or not).</p>
<p><span id="more-1270"></span>- This excellent explanation of why <a href="http://forum.theboltonnews.co.uk/viewtopic.php?t=2099&amp;sid=3d7d639e8a851def1a36c3c18ce938d1">it&#8217;s time Gary Megson was sacked</a>.</p>
<p>- A discussion on The Bolton News forum suggesting <a href="http://forum.theboltonnews.co.uk/viewtopic.php?t=2063&amp;sid=3d7d639e8a851def1a36c3c18ce938d1">Burnley fans are worried Owen Coyle will replace Megson</a> (he has to be sacked first!).</p>
<p>- This debate about <a href="http://timesonline.typepad.com/thegame/2008/11/in-this-weeks-d.html">Phil Gartside&#8217;s idea for a two-tier Premier League</a>. This comment sums it up for me:</p>
<blockquote><p>Utterly ridiculous idea. Only 20 years ago, Bolton Wanderers were in the bottom tier. One would think a club with history like that would appreciate promotion.</p></blockquote>
<p>- This article (on a Norwich City website of all places) reporting <a href="http://norwichcity.myfootballwriter.com/full_article.asp?i=4259">Gartside&#8217;s idea</a> in more detail (his argument is still undermined by the fact that under his rules the Wanderers would never have achieved what they have over the last eight years). For a history lesson Mr Gartside could see this discussion on where we were <a href="http://boltonwanderers.rivals.net/Forum/pgePosts.aspx?threadId=283358&amp;boardId=103&amp;clubId=9">23 years ago</a>.</p>
<p>- This tribute to the <a href="http://www.bolton.vitalfootball.co.uk/article.asp?a=130681">in-form Jlloyd Samuel</a> (I have to confess I&#8217;d written him off as a bad buy too so fair play to him for proving us both wrong).</p>
<p>- Transfer rumours linking the Whites with <a href="http://www.planetswans.co.uk/article.aspx?ArticleID=8695">Swansea&#8217;s Ferrie Bodde</a> and <a href="http://www.portsmouth.co.uk/national-football/Chairman-warns-rivals-off-6m.4661247.jp">Leeds&#8217; Fabian Delph</a> again.</p>
<p>- <a href="http://www.burndenaces.co.uk/news/?id=726">Gretar Steinsson talking about how much he loves Bolton Wanderers</a> (normally I&#8217;m sceptical when I see footballers saying things like this but in Steinsson&#8217;s case I&#8217;m willing to believe it given the way he interacts with the fans both during and after games&#8230; if only Nicky Hunt had shown similar passion: we are his hometown club after all!).</p>
<p>- And finally&#8230; Good to see it didn&#8217;t take <a href="http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1082922/Diouf-drink-48-hours-Sunderland-lose-5-0-Chelsea.html?ITO=1490">El-Hadji Diouf</a> long to get amongst the negative headlines at Sunderland.<em></em></p>
<p><em>Seen an interesting Bolton Wanderers related story? Let me know in the comments section below&#8230;</em></p>
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