Comments on: Bolton Wanderers opinions you won’t read on the BBC http://mannyroad.com/bolton-wanderers-opinions-you-wont-read-on-the-bbc/25/01/2010/ Bolton Wanderers news and views you won't read in the papers... Fri, 03 Feb 2012 13:21:32 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: Bill http://mannyroad.com/bolton-wanderers-opinions-you-wont-read-on-the-bbc/25/01/2010/comment-page-1/#comment-1537 Bill Wed, 28 Apr 2010 03:55:35 +0000 http://mannyroad.com/?p=3573#comment-1537 Stephen, I disagree with much of what you say here, but I'm delighted you decided to air your views here after the BBC censored you. I wouldn't mind the BBC's stance so much if their own journalists always presented fair and balanced arguments, but the number of reporters and pundits they have allowed to criticise Bolton Wanderers fans for their role in Gary Megson's sacking, without actually giving any of those fans the chance to defend themselves and give the opposite point of view, is disgusting. yet again, yesterday, I listened to Gary Richardson on BBC Five Live's Sportsweek programme saying that Megson had done 'a really good job' at Bolton. Really Gary, bottom three, one win in his last 10, no clean sheets all season, complete arrogance towards the fans causing the most alienation and disillusionment I've ever known amongst Wanderers fans... that's a 'really good job' Gary? Of course I would have loved the opportunity to put all these points to Richardson, but the BBC only seems to allow one side of the Megson argument to be given. That's great journalism. Anyway, back to the subject of your post... I think most referees make no more mistakes than the average player. And whilst the size of the crowd, prize at stake etc probably does have some subliminal influence on their decision making, I don't think they try and get things wrong. Stephen, I disagree with much of what you say here, but I’m delighted you decided to air your views here after the BBC censored you. I wouldn’t mind the BBC’s stance so much if their own journalists always presented fair and balanced arguments, but the number of reporters and pundits they have allowed to criticise Bolton Wanderers fans for their role in Gary Megson’s sacking, without actually giving any of those fans the chance to defend themselves and give the opposite point of view, is disgusting. yet again, yesterday, I listened to Gary Richardson on BBC Five Live’s Sportsweek programme saying that Megson had done ‘a really good job’ at Bolton. Really Gary, bottom three, one win in his last 10, no clean sheets all season, complete arrogance towards the fans causing the most alienation and disillusionment I’ve ever known amongst Wanderers fans… that’s a ‘really good job’ Gary? Of course I would have loved the opportunity to put all these points to Richardson, but the BBC only seems to allow one side of the Megson argument to be given. That’s great journalism.

Anyway, back to the subject of your post… I think most referees make no more mistakes than the average player. And whilst the size of the crowd, prize at stake etc probably does have some subliminal influence on their decision making, I don’t think they try and get things wrong.

]]> By: Kidfos http://mannyroad.com/bolton-wanderers-opinions-you-wont-read-on-the-bbc/25/01/2010/comment-page-1/#comment-1437 Kidfos Tue, 26 Jan 2010 10:49:48 +0000 http://mannyroad.com/?p=3573#comment-1437 Im sitting on the fence a little on this issue ( about Refs, not THAT tackle) I would like to believe that they are honest to a man. And I do not doubt that many of them are. However there are also those who while not dishonest, do favor the larger clubs. Its quite understandable that some refs cannot cope with the pressure of making on the spot, game changing decisions in front of a large home crowd at the home of one of the top four. What is not acceptable is when the cameras at the end of the match show the referee has clearly got it wrong then the FA needs to step in, find out how and why the ref made such a mistake and if need be taker action should any be needed. My other point is, Gallas may have implemented the tackle on Davies. But just who gave the green light to the players to behave in such a manner. Win at all costs Mr Wenger? Im sitting on the fence a little on this issue ( about Refs, not THAT tackle)
I would like to believe that they are honest to a man. And I do not doubt that many of them are. However there are also those who while not dishonest, do favor the larger clubs. Its quite understandable that some refs cannot cope with the pressure of making on the spot, game changing decisions in front of a large home crowd at the home of one of the top four. What is not acceptable is when the cameras at the end of the match show the referee has clearly got it wrong then the FA needs to step in, find out how and why the ref made such a mistake and if need be taker action should any be needed.

My other point is, Gallas may have implemented the tackle on Davies. But just who gave the green light to the players to behave in such a manner. Win at all costs Mr Wenger?

]]> By: Robert Walsh http://mannyroad.com/bolton-wanderers-opinions-you-wont-read-on-the-bbc/25/01/2010/comment-page-1/#comment-1436 Robert Walsh Tue, 26 Jan 2010 10:10:19 +0000 http://mannyroad.com/?p=3573#comment-1436 There is a consensus view that referees favour 'big' clubs. Listening to BBC Radio Manchester one was left with the feeling that Bolton two goal advantage was not part of the script. Following the second goal the pressure placed on the referee directly and indirectly by Arsenal resulted in every tackle with an award to Arsenal and the Gallas tackle which from most of the photographs was intent to injure rather than win the ball. The subsquent quotes from the referee when asked for clarification was that he did not see the incident. Yet on the following day the FA in a press release quoted that the referee DID see the incident and no retrospective action could be taken. The only positive outcome from the entire match being that the injury did not result in a fracture! There is a consensus view that referees favour ‘big’ clubs. Listening to BBC Radio Manchester one was left with the feeling that Bolton two goal advantage was not part of the script. Following the second goal the pressure placed on the referee directly and indirectly by Arsenal resulted in every tackle with an award to Arsenal and the Gallas tackle which from most of the photographs was intent to injure rather than win the ball. The subsquent quotes from the referee when asked for clarification was that he did not see the incident. Yet on the following day the FA in a press release quoted that the referee DID see the incident and no retrospective action could be taken.

The only positive outcome from the entire match being that the injury did not result in a fracture!

]]> By: Manny Road http://mannyroad.com/bolton-wanderers-opinions-you-wont-read-on-the-bbc/25/01/2010/comment-page-1/#comment-1435 Manny Road Mon, 25 Jan 2010 14:13:16 +0000 http://mannyroad.com/?p=3573#comment-1435 Stephen, I disagree with much of what you say here, but I'm delighted you decided to air your views here after the BBC censored you. I wouldn't mind the BBC's stance so much if their own journalists always presented fair and balanced arguments, but the number of reporters and pundits they have allowed to criticise Bolton Wanderers fans for their role in Gary Megson's sacking, without actually giving any of those fans the chance to defend themselves and give the opposite point of view, is disgusting. yet again, yesterday, I listened to Gary Richardson on BBC Five Live's Sportsweek programme saying that Megson had done 'a really good job' at Bolton. Really Gary, bottom three, one win in his last 10, no clean sheets all season, complete arrogance towards the fans causing the most alienation and disillusionment I've ever known amongst Wanderers fans... that's a 'really good job' Gary? Of course I would have loved the opportunity to put all these points to Richardson, but the BBC only seems to allow one side of the Megson argument to be given. That's great journalism. Anyway, back to the subject of your post... I think most referees make no more mistakes than the average player. And whilst the size of the crowd, prize at stake etc probably does have some subliminal influence on their decision making, I don't think they try and get things wrong. Stephen, I disagree with much of what you say here, but I’m delighted you decided to air your views here after the BBC censored you. I wouldn’t mind the BBC’s stance so much if their own journalists always presented fair and balanced arguments, but the number of reporters and pundits they have allowed to criticise Bolton Wanderers fans for their role in Gary Megson’s sacking, without actually giving any of those fans the chance to defend themselves and give the opposite point of view, is disgusting. yet again, yesterday, I listened to Gary Richardson on BBC Five Live’s Sportsweek programme saying that Megson had done ‘a really good job’ at Bolton. Really Gary, bottom three, one win in his last 10, no clean sheets all season, complete arrogance towards the fans causing the most alienation and disillusionment I’ve ever known amongst Wanderers fans… that’s a ‘really good job’ Gary? Of course I would have loved the opportunity to put all these points to Richardson, but the BBC only seems to allow one side of the Megson argument to be given. That’s great journalism.

Anyway, back to the subject of your post… I think most referees make no more mistakes than the average player. And whilst the size of the crowd, prize at stake etc probably does have some subliminal influence on their decision making, I don’t think they try and get things wrong.

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