Spurs v Bolton – How the pendulum has swung…?

Wednesday April 28th, 2010

This weekend sees Bolton travel to White Hart Lane, and a clash between two famous old clubs that have 16 FA Cup

how times have changed

Finals (12 wins) and a combined total of 146 years of top-flight football between them, not to mention Spurs’ 4 League Cup wins, and 4 European trophies.

Recent history has been very different for the two clubs, with Spurs only spending one year out of the top flight since 1950, whilst Bolton have dropped through the leagues and back twice in the same period. However, looking further back in history paints a different picture of the two clubs.

Prior to 1950, Spurs had spent as much time in the Second Division as the First, and their only FA Cup win had come as a non-league club in 1901. Bolton had already won the cup three times, been runners-up twice, and spent the vast majority of their history in the top flight.

The abolition of the maximum wage in 1961 changed the football landscape at the time, and Bolton’s decline from this point onwards was dramatic and prolonged.

By the end of the 1959/60 season, Bolton were historically England’s 5th most successful club, based on average league position. At the same point, despite one league title success, Spurs were the 20th best team.

By the end of 2008, Spurs – by now winners of the FA Cup eight times, the League Cup four times, and four European trophies – had moved up to seventh in the table of overall average league positions, whilst Bolton had failed to add to trophy cabinet, had spent more time out of the top flight than in it, and slipped to 21st in the overall average league table.

In anticipation of the weekend’s clash, bwfcforum’s Statman takes a closer look at the history of the two clubs for Manny Road.

Early years: 1888 – 1914
By the time Spurs were elected to the football league div 2 in 1908, founder members Bolton had completed 20 seasons, mostly in the First Division, but with a best placed finish of 3rd. Tottenham had already become the first – and only – non-league club to win the FA Cup since the formation of the football league in 1888. Bolton had yet to win the trophy, having been losing finalists in 1894 and 1904.
In their first season, Spurs finished runners up to Bolton– who had been relegated the previous season. Spurs stayed up for six seasons before being relegated in 1915, whilst Bolton went straight back down in 1910, only to bounce back at the first attempt and remain in the top flight until 1933.

Spurs’ first spell in the top flight saw them finish 15th, 15th, 12th, 17th, and 17th before finally finishing 20th in 1915.

After promotion again in 1911, Bolton finished 4th, 8th, 6th, and 17th before the league was suspended for WWI.

Between the Wars
When the league resumed in 1919/20, Spurs won the Second Division title and went on to enjoy an 8 year period in the top flight, finishing 6th in 1921 and then runners up in 1922 – their highest league finish at that point – but then spent the next 5 years in the bottom half, finishing between 12th and 15th, before being relegated again in 1928.

From 1919/20, Bolton enjoyed one of their best spells, finishing 8 of the next 9 seasons in the top 8.

The 1920’s also saw the two clubs share 4 FA Cup wins, Spurs winning the trophy in 1921 and Bolton following their 1923 success in the first FA Cup Final at Wembley with wins in 1926 and 1929. The decade also saw the first meeting between the two sides in the cup, with Spurs knocking Bolton out in a second round replay in 1925. The two clubs would go on to meet in the cup in a further 5 seasons, with 4 of the ties needing a replay, and a further tie – in 1948 – decided after extra time. In total, including this year’s clash, Spurs have knocked Bolton out 4 times.

Whilst Spurs spent 5 seasons in Division Two from 1928/29, Bolton had slipped into the bottom half of Division One, with the Trotters finally relegated in 1933, swapping places with Spurs who were promoted as runners up.

Spurs then spent two seasons in the top flight – finishing an impressive 3rd in their first season back, before finishing rock bottom the following year – whilst Bolton spent two years in Division Two, finishing 3rd before being promoted the following year as runners up, with the two teams again swapping places in the top flight.

The following four years leading up to WWII saw both clubs remain in their respective divisions, Bolton narrowly avoiding relegation in 1937 but then finishing in the top half for the following two years, whilst Spurs were mid-table in Div 2.

Post War years: 1946 – 1977
Resumption of the league programme in 1946/47 saw Bolton struggling at the wrong end of Div 1 for the next four years, with Spurs finishing 6th, 8th, and 5th before finally returning as Div 2 champions in 1950.

Spurs followed up their Div 2 success by winning the Div 1 title in their first season back in 1951, then finished runners up in 1952. The following season saw them down to 10th, before struggling at the bottom end for the next 3 seasons. Over the same period, Bolton enjoyed 4 top half finishes out of the 6 seasons, with only 1955 (18th) seeing them flirting with relegation. They were also on the wrong end of Blackpool’s famous 4-3 win in the 1953 FA Cup Final.

The next 20 years saw a period of unprecedented prolonged success for Spurs, with 15 top 8 finishes and only 1959 (18th), and 1975 (19th) out of the top half. The highlights of the period was undoubtedly the double success of 1961, in a spell which saw them finish in the top 3 six seasons out of seven between 1957 and 1963. Although they didn’t enjoy this level of consistent success in the remainder of the period, they managed 3rd place finishes in 1967 and 1971.

Spurs also retained the FA Cup in 1962 and won it again in 1967. They followed up their FA Cup success by winning the UEFA Cup Winners’ Cup in 1963, the first European trophy win by an English club, along with League Cup wins in 1971 and 1973, a UEFA Cup win in 1972 and losing final in 1974.

Whilst the 1950’s ended well for Bolton, with the 1958 FA cup win followed up with two top 6 finishes, times were changing for the Lancashire outfit, with the abolition of the maximum wage and the end of Nat Lofthouse’s prolific career, and flirtation with relegation in 1961 and 1963 was merely a brief reprieve, as the Trotters finished 21st in 1964.

For a club that had never spent more than two consecutive years out of the top flight, and had only spent 7 years in the Second Division since the formation of the league in 1888/89, it would have seemed unthinkable at the time that Bolton would not have returned to the top flight for 14 seasons. Having narrowly missed out on an immediate return in 1965, Bolton spent the next couple of years in mid-table, before a gradual decline that saw relegation to Division Three in 1971 for the first time in the club’s history. They finished a disappointing 7th in 1972 before being promoted as Division Three champions in 1973.

After a couple of mid-table finishes, Bolton then narrowly missed out on promotion by a point in 1976 and 1977 (to Brian Clough’s Forest), whilst Spurs’ 19th place finish in 1975 was a warning for what was to come two seasons later, when they finished bottom of Division One.

1977- 2001
1977/78 saw the two clubs in the same division for the first time since Bolton’s relegation in 1964, with the two clubs – favourites for promotion – battling it out at the top all season, Bolton finally finishing champions with Spurs promoted in third place.

The fortunes of the two clubs from that point could not have been more different. Whilst Spurs have enjoyed an unbroken spell in the top flight, Bolton managed a 17th place finish in 1979 before being rooted to the bottom for most of the following season and being relegated by some distance. Bolton’s decline from 1980 was worse than that following their previous relegation in 1964, with the club plummeting through the divisions before spending a season – 1987/88 – in the Fourth Division. Bolton then spent a further 5 seasons in the third division before gaining promotion to the second tier in 1993.

Over the same period, Spurs were mostly a top half team, with 3rd place finishes in 1985, 1987, and 1990, and further FA Cup success in 1981, 1982, and 1991 (plus their only Cup Final defeat in 1987) and a UEFA Cup triumph in 1984.

After 2 years in the second tier, Bolton returned to the top flight after a dramatic play-off win v Reading in 1995, but their stay was short-lived. As Manchester United pipped Keegan’s Newcastle for the title, and Tottenham finished 8th, Bolton finished 4 points adrift at the foot of the table. 1995 also saw Bolton make their first appearance in the League Cup final, finishing runners up to Liverpool.

In 1997 Bolton bounced straight back in style, finishing 18 points clear at the top of Division One, with Spurs finishing mid-table in the Premiership. Again, their stay lasted only a season, going down on goal difference to Everton on the final day. Spurs were briefly involved in the relegation battle, but ultimately pulled away to finish 4 points clear in 14th.

Spurs remained in mid-table for the next three seasons, finishing 11th, 10th and 12th, winning the League Cup again in 1999, whilst Bolton missed out in the play-offs in 1999 and 2000 before finally returning via the same route in 2001.

2001-present
Whilst the next two seasons saw Bolton in relegation battles, finishing 4 points clear in 16th in 2002, before needing 44 points to survive in 17th place the following year (West Ham were relegated on 42 points), Spurs maintained their mid-table position, finishing 9th and 10th respectively.

Bolton finished top 8 in each of the next four seasons, with a best finish of 6th in 2005, 3 points off a Champions League place, and also made their second appearance in the League Cup Final, this time losing to Middlesbrough. Spurs finished 14th and 9th before consecutive 5th place finishes in 2006 and 2007, missing a Champions League spot by just 2 points in 2006.

The following season, with Sammy Lee replacing Sam Allardyce as manager, whilst Bolton were rooted to the foot of the table after 10 games with just 5 points, Martin Jol’s Spurs were just 2 points and two places above, and struggling to repeat the form of the previous two years. Whilst Bolton ultimately survived under Gary Megson, finishing 16th and 1 point clear of relegation, Spurs finished 10 points clear in 11th place after Juande Ramos had replaced Martin Jol, and again won the League Cup.

The following season saw Spurs finish 8th (and League Cup runners up) and Bolton comfortable in 13th, despite spending periods of the season hovering just above the relegation zone.

The two clubs have continued to have different fortunes this season, with Bolton breathing a sigh of relief having secured safety with two games remaining, and Spurs currently holding 4th spot and a Champions League place.

Overall …
It’s probably fitting for two clubs whose greatest successes have been in cup competitions that the biggest wins in meetings between the two have all come in cup competitions, with Tottenham’s 6-0 League Cup win in 2001 trumping Bolton’s 6-1 win in the same competition in 1996. Spurs have also enjoyed 4-0 FA Cup wins in 2002 – the only FA Cup tie between the sides not to go to a replay or extra time – and in this year’s competition.

The two sides have not been lucky for each other in the cup. Despite being drawn against each other nine times in cup competitions, and sharing 25 appearances in domestic finals, neither side has reached a cup final in the seasons that they have met.

Spurs have managed to do the double over Bolton six times – including both of their league title-winning campaigns, and most recently in 1978/79 – whilst Bolton have managed the same feat seven times, including 2003/04 and 2004/05. Results since then have typically gone for the home team.

Overall, of the 90 completed seasons that both clubs have been in the football league, Spurs have finished higher than Bolton 60 times.

The head to head results are somewhat closer. Out of a total of 97 meetings, Spurs have 42 wins to Bolton’s 36 (19 draws), whilst in league meetings, Spurs are ahead 36 to 33 (14 draws).

League meetings at White Hart Lane show a clearer dominance for Spurs, with 25 wins, 7 draws, and 9 defeats, the last in October 2004. Since that win, Bolton have managed just 1 point from the last 5 league trips.

With Spurs in pole position for the 4th Champions League spot, and Bolton now playing for nothing other than pride and Premier League prize money, will Spurs extend their dominance at White Hart Lane, or could Bolton upset the odds and get their first win there in almost six years?

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16 Comments to Spurs v Bolton – How the pendulum has swung…?

Chris Packet
April 28, 2010

Great article. Brings back some good memories.

Ricky the Yid
April 29, 2010

We have won only 3 European trophies not 4 also we won the FA Cup in 1921 as well as 1901. Great article.

COYS

Ian Godfrey
April 29, 2010

Thanks for a well balanced article comparing the fortunes of our two clubs. As a Spurs supporter since ’71 and a bit of a ‘stato’, I hope you don’t mind me pointing out one inaccuracy – in this paragraph:

“Prior to 1950, Spurs had spent as much time in the Second Division as the First, and their only FA Cup win had come as a non-league club in 1901.

Which should read: “… and their only FA Cup wins had been in 1901 and 1921, the first of which was as a non-league club” or something like that!

david
April 29, 2010

There is something you don’t read every day- good well researched journalism. A good piece, wish more Spurs fans wrote this way rather than the fickle drivel we are used to.

Come on you Spurs!

Stoney
April 29, 2010

Good article I guess but the clubs are miles apart now. Bolton hang onto their premiership existence every year whilst spurs are going to the champions league. This will be the case for years to come, the only possible change to that is if Bolton are relegated, which is highly possible.

Danspur
April 29, 2010

An good article. Interesting to see how the fortunes of the two clubs have fluctuated contrasted over the years, with only a few years where they were really close rivals.
COYS!

Bert
April 29, 2010

Very good read ……..& ‘Stoney’ yes we are miles apart two
hundred approximately , & it is possible you MAY graduate to
the top four league ,but when was the last time you won a top
flight game at Bolton ?

BWFC4EVA
April 29, 2010

Stoney, it’s a shame you had to ruin all these decent posts with your drivel. Bolton are going from strength to strength and even if Spurs do get in to the champions league, it’s ‘highly likely’ they’ll do nothing. Even if they throw yet more millions and millions of pounds at it, they’ll always have little or nothing to show for it.

Alfie
April 29, 2010

excellent read, always enjoy the Spurs V Bolton games, Some of the best games I’ve seen as a Bolton supporter over the last 40yrs involved Spurs, who can forget those titanic games during the 70′s

Steve
April 29, 2010

Hopefully Stoney is not deemed representative of all Tottenham fans. Miles apart? They are in the same league and have been for years.

One good manager for Bolton and one bad one for Spurs and it’s all turned on it’s head. On potential then yes I agree, spurs have the greater capacity there but no point being arrogant about it as the history books look for trophies not a catalogue of what might have been.

Us spurs fans are generally more humble than given credit for but understandably we are let down by some supporters who live in the past.

BWFC4EVA
April 29, 2010

Steve – Stoney clearly lives in the future where Spurs are a regular champions league side and competing in that and at the top of the premier league year in, year out!! I personally can’t see that happening unless Spurs stick with Redknapp for a good few seasons and build a bigger stadium. Trouble is, Spurs have always had a habit of shooting themselves in the foot and spending loads of unnecessary cash, so we’ll see…

As far as Bolton are concerned, Coyle will make us challengers for Europe again over the next couple of seasons, i’m sure of that.

spursforme
April 29, 2010

Good article spoilt by the insipid posts. lets all be friends and both clubs are as good as each other bull sh*t, WoW! all you good old chaps a very nice to each other. “We all think both Clubs are excellent” is about as much twaddle as I can take.

I am a Spurs fan, have been all my life, but i`m in Stoney`s camp on this one. HAVE SOME BACKBONE I support Spurs and they are the best club in the land if not the world. Yes over the years the 1st team have had there moments both positive and negative but I live and die a Spurs fan. I would hate to be a Bolton fan…O M G just the thought of it!!!!1

stat man
April 29, 2010

Apologies to Spurs fans for the two factual errors. It was literally lazy journalism, as I rewrote part of it when I was half asleep.
In my (admittedly weak) defence, I did mention your 1921 FA Cup win later in the article.
I could also claim I was counting the 1971 Anglo-Italian Cup win as a European trophy … but I wasn’t – it was an error.

Once again, my apologies.

BWFC4EVA
April 30, 2010

Spursforme – how old are you? Grow up.

spursforme
April 30, 2010

BWFC4EVA

You are saying in a previous post on here that Stoney lives in the future…that is not physically possible! you clearly do not understand the basic law of physics and you ask how old I am???. Also a mute point but interesting none the less, age has nothing to do with an individuals personality. I truly hope I never “grow up” as you put it, because I would hate to be like you O M G just the thought of your life …supporting Bolton in pipe and slippers with “T” dog gettin “T” news paper from the “t” corner shop and “t” wife sitting in “t” little two up two down with her curlers in waiting for you to come `ome from “T” match wi` you snap ont table.

I`ll tell you what I will grow up when hell freezes over, till then im young at heart and I support the best club in the land. my life is great.. I live just off the beach on the south coast, in a huge house and drive a BMW and have a nice 3 bed holiday home on a holiday island in the Med. I have a degree, a sexy beautiful wife and simply loads of money. I have two sons (one a pro Keeper) and the other has a Masters in resource management. And all that without growing up or making it up.

Bruce
May 19, 2010

Hopefully Stoney is not deemed representative of all Tottenham fans. Miles apart? They are in the same league and have been for years.

One good manager for Bolton and one bad one for Spurs and it’s all turned on it’s head. On potential then yes I agree, spurs have the greater capacity there but no point being arrogant about it as the history books look for trophies not a catalogue of what might have been.

Us spurs fans are generally more humble than given credit for but understandably we are let down by some supporters who live in the past.

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